2025 Has No Listings for Core Class but there are Listings for New Cartoon Line
Thursday, June 20th, 2024 2:00PM CDT
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As for Earthspark, while there are still new toys coming on shelves this year and the beginning of next year, there is then a lack of listings for that specific line and instead a listing for the first wave of what appears to be a new show. We do not know more than that.
Below is exactly what JTPrime said.
I know the writing was on the wall.
I just wanted to clear some things up with what I know.
You can take this as you will, but anyways.
I have seen about 95% of the solicitations for 2025 that was offered to retailers.
Core class is not one of the price points being offered next year. At least in the traditional sense. Some figures will trickle out in some multipacks.
In all honesty the data I have seen shows the price point has not been preforming the way Hasbro would like it.
Another thing I can confirm is yes. It seems Earthspark will not be going past season 2.
The replacement for it is already in the works. The first wave of toys has already been solicited to retailers. The toyline’s branding doesn’t mention it being related to Earthspark at all so far.
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I remember there was discussion a few years ago about how old-fashioned GI Joe o-ring figures cost almost the same to design and produce as their larger 6-inch Classified figures, but people expected them to be cheaper because they are significantly smaller, so Hasbro just didn't consider that line worth continuing, and indeed they don't really make those figures outside of the occasional Transformers collaboration crossover anymore. I wonder if there's something similar happening here.
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Spider5800 wrote:I remember there was discussion a few years ago about how old-fashioned GI Joe o-ring figures cost almost the same to design and produce as their larger 6-inch Classified figures, but people expected them to be cheaper because they are significantly smaller, so Hasbro just didn't consider that line worth continuing, and indeed they don't really make those figures outside of the occasional Transformers collaboration crossover anymore. I wonder if there's something similar happening here.
That's entirely possible, it certainly wouldn't be the first time Hasbro has cut off their cheapest offering, often because over time they can no longer be made cheap enough to be sold at a price point that would be considered "cheap". Though, oddly enough, we've actually seen the MSRP on Core come down, peaking at around $13 and then falling back down to $10, which is pretty damn rare to see.
I think what's really happening is pushback from retailers. They aren't selling particularly well (which has more to do with the retailers overstocking than anything) and between all the lines with all their different size classes and price points Transformers take up a lot of real estate that might be better suited for things that sell may sell better. Look at retail right now: 4 price points for Legacy (not counting CC and Titan since those aren't always sold at retail), 4 points for Studio Series, at least 6 price points for Earthspark, and another 6 or so price points for Rise of the Beasts. That's a lot! It's really no surprise that some cuts are coming.
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Posted by Spider5800 on June 21st, 2024 @ 6:51pm CDT
Emerje wrote:That's entirely possible, it certainly wouldn't be the first time Hasbro has cut off their cheapest offering, often because over time they can no longer be made cheap enough to be sold at a price point that would be considered "cheap". Though, oddly enough, we've actually seen the MSRP on Core come down, peaking at around $13 and then falling back down to $10, which is pretty damn rare to see.
I think what's really happening is pushback from retailers. They aren't selling particularly well (which has more to do with the retailers overstocking than anything) and between all the lines with all their different size classes and price points Transformers take up a lot of real estate that might be better suited for things that sell may sell better. Look at retail right now: 4 price points for Legacy (not counting CC and Titan since those aren't always sold at retail), 4 points for Studio Series, at least 6 price points for Earthspark, and another 6 or so price points for Rise of the Beasts. That's a lot! It's really no surprise that some cuts are coming.
Emerje
Makes sense. It probably also frees up production on Hasbro's end to make more stuff that actually sells as well. I know I would have preferred seeing more Studio Series Mirage's and Nightbird's available instead of piles of unsold core class Ratchet's and Ironhide's.
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Posted by Emerje on June 22nd, 2024 @ 4:35am CDT
Spider5800 wrote:I know I would have preferred seeing more Studio Series Mirage's and Nightbird's available instead of piles of unsold core class Ratchet's and Ironhide's.
I've barely seen those cores in stores, I'm still swimming in wave 1 Legacy Cores. Target has United Cores, but that's it.
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Spider5800 wrote:I remember there was discussion a few years ago about how old-fashioned GI Joe o-ring figures cost almost the same to design and produce as their larger 6-inch Classified figures, but people expected them to be cheaper because they are significantly smaller, so Hasbro just didn't consider that line worth continuing, and indeed they don't really make those figures outside of the occasional Transformers collaboration crossover anymore. I wonder if there's something similar happening here.
Yet they make Four O-ring ghostbusters and sell them for cheaper than two 6 inch ghostbusters...doubtful.
what isn't as doubtful is the transformer pretender figures will never get a full line up in any size class they are thrown into :/
Posted by Spider5800 on June 22nd, 2024 @ 10:14am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Spider5800 wrote:I remember there was discussion a few years ago about how old-fashioned GI Joe o-ring figures cost almost the same to design and produce as their larger 6-inch Classified figures, but people expected them to be cheaper because they are significantly smaller, so Hasbro just didn't consider that line worth continuing, and indeed they don't really make those figures outside of the occasional Transformers collaboration crossover anymore. I wonder if there's something similar happening here.
Yet they make Four O-ring ghostbusters and sell them for cheaper than two 6 inch ghostbusters...doubtful.
what isn't as doubtful is the transformer pretender figures will never get a full line up in any size class they are thrown into :/
I mean, it probably helps that the Ghostbusters figures are using an identical body from the neck down. All they really need for those is unique heads. A lot cheaper to design those when all four are using the SAME design.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 22nd, 2024 @ 2:17pm CDT
"The replacement for it is already in the works..."...
The way I'm reading that doesn't mean that the new line taking the place of Earthspark is going to be related to a cartoon. I don't keep up on the cartoon/show news, nor am I on the cartoon rumor mill, so maybe I'm wrong and the this new line is in fact based on another new show. Is there going to be a TFOne spin-off show?
To me this wording reads that there's a line of figures ready to go, period. Of course, if not related to a cartoon show, then what is the basis for this new line?
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chuckdawg1999 wrote:No, (rends shirt) Nooo, (causes random objects in the room to shake) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Eh, what are ya going to do?
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Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:No, (rends shirt) Nooo, (causes random objects in the room to shake) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Eh, what are ya going to do?
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