Image and Preorder for Transformers One Steelbook

-Kanrabat- wrote:I just came back from the movie and yup.

Hands down the BEST Transformers movie so far. Everything clicks, everything makes sense, and not a single cringe moment, nor forced current day "message". This will make TF1 TIMELESS. It will be as good in 50 years as it is right now.

cloudballoon wrote:Proabably some franchise fatigue have something to do with the slower start?

Some "fans" that can only accept a TF media in a narrowly defined "acceptable" way might also have hurt the box office?

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I just came back from the movie and yup.

Hands down the BEST Transformers movie so far. Everything clicks, everything makes sense, and not a single cringe moment, nor forced current day "message". This will make TF1 TIMELESS. It will be as good in 50 years as it is right now.

Do you also think the badassatron joke paid off? Because i was surprised it did

Bumblevivisector wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:Proabably some franchise fatigue have something to do with the slower start?

Some "fans" that can only accept a TF media in a narrowly defined "acceptable" way might also have hurt the box office?

Well, seeing as there was a TF movie in theaters last year, a lot of more casual fans probably find it odd that there's an origin movie so soon after, if they assume origin=reboot.

And to clarify, RotB is my third favorite live action TF film after AofE and Bee Movie, so please don't assume I'm implying its quality (averageness) was the problem. I think it is partly recent film frequency and not necessarily long-term franchise fatigue.

Dino-Snarl wrote:Won't watch it in theatres. Don't go anymore. Bought the DVD.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dino-Snarl wrote:Won't watch it in theatres. Don't go anymore. Bought the DVD.

You're only hurting the movie's chances of box office success by doing that.

Dino-Snarl wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dino-Snarl wrote:Won't watch it in theatres. Don't go anymore. Bought the DVD.

You're only hurting the movie's chances of box office success by doing that.

Can't be helped. We haven't seen a movie in theatres for 7 years. prefer being at home alone. Introvert thing.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dino-Snarl wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dino-Snarl wrote:Won't watch it in theatres. Don't go anymore. Bought the DVD.

You're only hurting the movie's chances of box office success by doing that.

Can't be helped. We haven't seen a movie in theatres for 7 years. prefer being at home alone. Introvert thing.

When I saw it on Friday, I had the whole room to myself. No one else had bought tickets to that screening, so I was the only one in the theater room.

Dino-Snarl wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dino-Snarl wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dino-Snarl wrote:Won't watch it in theatres. Don't go anymore. Bought the DVD.

You're only hurting the movie's chances of box office success by doing that.

Can't be helped. We haven't seen a movie in theatres for 7 years. prefer being at home alone. Introvert thing.

When I saw it on Friday, I had the whole room to myself. No one else had bought tickets to that screening, so I was the only one in the theater room.

Heaven.

Sabrblade wrote:So it looks like more people went to the pre-release screenings instead of the day-of-release ones. That tells me that more people than normal were eager to see the movie sooner than later.

Glyph wrote:(LdB did say they were planning on a trilogy, for what it's worth).

cloudballoon wrote:I'm optimistic on the overall office box finanicals that it'll be quite profitable for its budget at the end. Turning around the downward spiral on ROI since AOE/TLK. TF:1 will help get rid of the bad taste gen pop got on AOE/TLK and for some, ROTB and BBM. Ultimately, with mostly positive impressions of TF:1, it'll help make TF1's sequel a reality.

Sabrblade wrote:My biggest concern is how much The Wild Robot is probably going to just destroy TF One's chances of success, as people are already predicting that movie as being Oscar-worthy.

-Kanrabat- wrote:or they check the DEI boxes

Glyph wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:or they check the DEI boxes

Oh give it a rest.

Bumblevivisector wrote:I was afraid of this when there were only 8 people besides myself in the 3D showing on Friday. It was 1:00 PM though, and I assumed more families would come to see it once kids were out of school.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Glyph wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:or they check the DEI boxes

Oh give it a rest.

Why hiding the truth?

The boxes are checked, but people ain't buying.

Don't let toxic positivity ruin your things, when stating obvious criticism is forbidden.
That's what they did for the infamous Concord. Sure, that's a game, not a movie. But the comparison is the same. Concord would have sweep the gaming awards if the sales were at a sustainable minimum. Instead, Sony lost almost gulf a billion dollars and the game died after 1 week.

Anyway, these things are pretty over. Proof that there was internal memos to cut the DEI nonsense from Inside-Out 2.
The result: A BILLION at the box office.

Glyph wrote:Anyway, the Primes. Do we know if this will be feeding into the Age of the Primes toyline? Seems like a good opportunity to do some synergy.

Glyph wrote:TBH the 13 have always been a part of TF lore that I find spectacularly uninteresting, but I will still be curious to see how they handle the subline (comparing to the POTP microfigs, at least).

Sabrblade wrote:

Glyph wrote:Anyway, the Primes. Do we know if this will be feeding into the Age of the Primes toyline?

See here.

Sabrblade wrote:

Glyph wrote:the subline

It isn't a subline. It's the next main line after Legacy United.

Glyph wrote:There are definitely days where you type out a whole thing and then think better of it.


Anyway, the Primes. Do we know if this will be feeding into the Age of the Primes toyline? Seems like a good opportunity to do some synergy. TBH the 13 have always been a part of TF lore that I find spectacularly uninteresting, but I will still be curious to see how they handle the subline (comparing to the POTP microfigs, at least).

JazZeke wrote:Case in point: The Fallen, starting out as the mysterious powerful Judas sporting a Satanic flame motif, and gradually evolving into "Megatronus," the incel of the group who betrayed them because the chick Prime friendzoned him.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

JazZeke wrote:Case in point: The Fallen, starting out as the mysterious powerful Judas sporting a Satanic flame motif, and gradually evolving into "Megatronus," the incel of the group who betrayed them because the chick Prime friendzoned him.

But this time around, it wasn't Megatronus the traitor, but the usual suspect.

JazZeke wrote:Some things are best left shrouded in the mystery of mythology, and the Thirteen Primes are definitely one of those things (see also: the pre-Hartnell live of the Doctor from Doctor Who). Any time Hasbro has tried to flesh out the Primes, they lose their enigma.

Case in point: The Fallen, starting out as the mysterious powerful Judas sporting a Satanic flame motif, and gradually evolving into "Megatronus," the incel of the group who betrayed them because the chick Prime friendzoned him.

william-james88 wrote:A part of Transformers One that a lot of fans have rallied behind is the handling of the 13 Primes and turning them into legendary heroes, along with their new designs.

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:What I did not like: Primarily, that the Thirteenth were so recent. I love the 13 being ancient entities, rather than ones that were dispatched not all that long ago.

Yeah, every time the movie mentioned "cycle" took me out of it for a bit. Probably the most famous uses of "cycle" before now were in Beast Wars and Animated, in which it was roughly the equivalent of one minute. Going by that, the Primes have only been gone for less than an hour.

Looking at other uses of it, Simon Furman defined 1 cycle as being 1 hour and 15 minutes (1.25 hours) in IDW1 comics, the Marvel UK story "Target: 2006" identified 10 cycles as being 5 Earth days (which would make 1 cycle = 12 Earth hours), Brian Ruckley said 1 cycle is 1 day (but shorter than an Earth day) for IDW2, and the Dreamwave Energon comics used "cycles" to refer to "years".

Going by all of that, the Energon comics' usage feels the closest to this movie's use of "cycle", as we also know it can't be the Cybertronian word for "day" since D-16 uses the word "day" in the same context as it's used by us Earth humans.

However, my inner nerd still feels that only 50 years isn't nearly long enough. We need a length of time long enough not just for the Primes to disappear but also for the collective memory of the entire population of Iacon City to completely forget that miners were ever born with cogs, as well as enough time for the mining industry to really take off become a fully integrated part of Cybertron's society to the point that it doesn't feel like some new development at all.

At minimum, I'd say 1 cycle in this movie's universe should equal no less than 1 decade, meaning 50 cycles would be 5 centuries. Or if we want to go bigger, 1 cycle could be 1 century, making the 50 cycles be 5000 years. That sure seems big enough.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, it was probably just meant to be "years" (I'm sticking with "cycle = decade" until we get official word on the matter).

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:I don't like that Sentinel was an outsider, I've always liked the "one of the thirteen betrayed the others" story. Making "Sentinel" actually be The Fallen/Megatronus or Leige Maximo (the Prime known for lying) could have remedied this.

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Lastly, I've always liked the Greek God-esque "Each Prime has their thing" (Prima is the leader, Vector has time and space, Trion is the storytellers, etc.) While their are elements of this in the movie (Megatronus is said to be the strongest, Alhpa Trion tells a story, Onyx resembles an animal and Micronus is small), they don't seem to be leaning into it. For example, Onyx is traditionally the beast former, but Alpha Trion turns into a beast as well. Additionally, he tells a story but doesn't seem to be known as a storyteller.

I do wonder about Quintus Prime and his relation to the Quintessons, if there is any.

william-james88 wrote:A part of Transformers One that a lot of fans have rallied behind is the handling of the 13 Primes and turning them into legendary heroes, along with their new designs. Fans have wanted a better look at them, since the movie rarely gave a clear shot of them, and now we have a great look at Micronus and Quintus. These character models are on cards though its unclear if these cards are physical or digital. We also have a screenshot of the thirteen from the film with their names labelled.

Hopefully we see more of these cards and maybe even get the toys one day.

Sabrblade wrote:At minimum, I'd say 1 cycle in this movie's universe should equal no less than 1 decade, meaning 50 cycles would be 5 centuries. Or if we want to go bigger, 1 cycle could be 1 century, making the 50 cycles be 5000 years. That sure seems big enough.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, it was probably just meant to be "years" (I'm sticking with "cycle = decade" until we get official word on the matter).

Sabrblade wrote:I mean, it still rather fits with most other depictions of Sentinel Prime being jerks and false Primes

Sabrblade wrote:*images of character cards*

#1 Signal Lancer fan & Sabrblade wrote:A whole bunch of stuff in spoiler tags

Glyph wrote:Cough, cough