Transformers One is Revealed to Have a very Modest Budget

Yes, please more theatrical animated transformers movies!!!

william-james88 wrote: If this low cost does indeed lead to a high profit, this could be the future of the franchise, theatrically speaking.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I've been hoping this for a while now. I've seen a lot of people say that this is one of the best things to come out of the franchise in a while, and even though I haven't seen it, its not hard to see why.

1. It's character-driven and the Transformers are fleshed-out, dynamic characters. This is a big complaint a lot of people, myself included, have had with many of the live action films

2. It's family friendly, but not geared primarily towards children. Yes, Transformers is a franchise with a lot of appeal to kids, but it also has a lot of adult fans. This feels like the first project since Animated that is geared towards both audience simultaneously, rather than being aimed at kids (Earthspark, Cyberverse, RID 2015) or aimed at more mature audiences (Prime, WFC Trilogy, live action movies).

As someone who has felt starved for good Transformers media (comics excluded) since Prime ended, I hope this movie is successful enough for Hasbro and Paramount to lean into.

Sabrblade wrote:These films are no stranger to such coincidences, as the first five films made Earth coincidentally be:

• The planet that the AllSpark and Megatron happened to land on.
• The planet that The Fallen's star harvester happened to be built on.
• The planet that Megatron and Sentinel Prime happened to agree to conquer and enslave when they made their deal with each other long ago.
• The planet the Creators happened to drop a Seed on in prehistoric times.
• The planet the Guardian Knights happened to bring the Staff of Merlin to and hide there.

When you spell it all out like that, that's a lot of coincidence.

Given the whole "Earth is Unicron" plot element of TLK, I wonder if there could be some sort of "Cybertronians are drawn to Earth because of Unicron" explanation

It's all one giant Multiverse that will culminate in a giant crossover that will see the Transformers evolve into Go-Bots.

Honestly, I figure at this point that the sooner folks admit to themselves that TF lore is all just a bunch of self-contained loosey-goosey retellings that rhymes more than it connects, the happier they are.

I can leave the obsessive continuity gap-filling to the Star Wars guys (OK, and the Japanese G1 guys, I suppose), and not get bothered at all that things look like they should fit together until you examine a single detail. *twitch*


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#1 Signal Lancer Fan wrote:

william-james88 wrote:If this low cost does indeed lead to a high profit, this could be the future of the franchise, theatrically speaking.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I've been hoping this for a while now. I've seen a lot of people say that this is one of the best things to come out of the franchise in a while, and even though I haven't seen it, its not hard to see why.

TBH I hope this too. Good animation isn't cheap, but it's cheaper than ILM VFX and does help to ground the films in the family-friendly bracket where I tend to find on-screen TF works best, rather than trying to take itself way too seriously as a big-budget action thriller. (Yes, yes, animation is a medium, not a genre; I'm making allowances for Hollywood thinking. And there's space for serious stories too, but I feel comics are a better home for those.)

If TF:One does well and sets up a future of well-produced animated TF films, I'll be a happy camper.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It's all one giant Multiverse that will culminate in a giant crossover that will see the Transformers evolve into Go-Bots.

...and fight Thanos!

Always thought animation is the direction to go whether TF:1 itself as a movie is good or not. We don't have to deal with the humans - whether in the plot or the whimps of the actors and it just expand the universe that much more as we don't have to ground the story to be on Earth only. It just opens out every possibilities for the franchise.

So it's good news that the early reviews seems to indicate it's a great movie and the buzz & hype around it seems like a thing too.

My only concern about it is that the Bot designs aren't great. Too same-y with OP, Megs, Elita-1 as main cast along with all the miner types (see the Iacon race scene & Blokees model kits). I like Bee, Alpha Trion & Sentinel though. So I hope the toy sales go well for Hasbro so the company can turn things around. Really widh TF:1 can help with the franchise's longevity.

I never really cared for Bay style action "spectacle" in the first place, non-sense Bay-bay-bay-plosions!!! is just not stimulating to me (that said, it's still better then Superheroes fights - when punches & kicks that cause massive environmental damage means nothing to the heroes/villain physically, I feel nothing.) and combine THAT with non-sense plot and unlikeable characters, I'm just not interested to experience it in the theatre and only worth a rental.

For live-action, I only love BBM, and that's because it gives me that '80's E.T. vibe that Spielberg was great at. '07 was OK because of its shock & awe value of what a live-action TF can be and deserves massive credit for it. But without that rose-colored glasses of nostalgia, it was just an OK blockbuster with nothing to love on repeat viewings.

So if Paramount learns any lessons, I hope it's that develop the Animation side as the main events, and the live action as side projects (go smaller, focus on plots).

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:And Sabrblade, as for your separate continuities theory, it doesn't work. The 2007 movie can't be a part of both.

Counterpoint: the Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons exist within multiple continuities. You got the 3H/Fun Pub BW universe, the Japanese G1 cartoon universe, the Dreamwave G1 comics universe, the 2006 IDW BW comics universe, Fun Pub's Wings Universe, and possibly even the Devil's Due G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity.

Yeah and it's a non-linear mess. For most of us fans it's probably acceptable because we're used to it, but try to explain it to the average moviegoer who just wants to watch all relevant parts of the story. It's confusing.

As for Bee being here during WW2 in TLK and showing up in 1987 afterwards for "the 1st time" it would be easy to explain it with transwarp technology in a sequel to Bumblebee if we had gotten a capable story from a creative team that cared about the franchise instead of what we got with RoTB.

First-Aid wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It's all one giant Multiverse that will culminate in a giant crossover that will see the Transformers evolve into Go-Bots.

...and fight Thanos!

Well, that's all they have. Kang or Doom would make more sense.

cloudballoon wrote:My only concern about it is that the Bot designs aren't great. Too same-y with OP, Megs, Elita-1 as main cast along with all the miner types (see the Iacon race scene & Blokees model kits).

Without spoiling anything, there is an in-story reason for that.

cloudballoon wrote:For live-action, I only love BBM, and that's because it gives me that '80's E.T. vibe that Spielberg was great at.

Funnily enough, that "80's E.T. vibe" is the reason we got radio-speak Bumblebee in the first place. Spielberg wanted recapture the magic of E.T. by having Bumblebee be the human leads alien sidekick who doesn't speak much, like how E.T. was. In fact, Spielberg originally wanted none of the Transformers to speak at all, which is why most of the Decepticons' dialogue in that movie is in a subtitled alien language. For once, this is a case where Spielberg did not have a good idea.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:And Sabrblade, as for your separate continuities theory, it doesn't work. The 2007 movie can't be a part of both.

Counterpoint: the Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons exist within multiple continuities. You got the 3H/Fun Pub BW universe, the Japanese G1 cartoon universe, the Dreamwave G1 comics universe, the 2006 IDW BW comics universe, Fun Pub's Wings Universe, and possibly even the Devil's Due G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity.

Yeah and it's a non-linear mess. For most of us fans it's probably acceptable because we're used to it, but try to explain it to the average moviegoer who just wants to watch all relevant parts of the story. It's confusing.

Yep, all because multiple disparate parties want to play in the same sandbox but not with each other.

The same thing also happened with the first three movies, leading them to occupy multiple continuities too. 2007/ROTF/DOTM exist in a main movie universe with AOE and TLK, in an expanded universe with the IDW movie comics/the "Ghosts of Yesterday" novel/"The Veiled Threat" novel/the Cyber Missions web cartoon/the Classified novel trilogy/and a few other things, and in a UK-original expanded universe with the comics published in Titan Magazine plus AOE again.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It's all one giant Multiverse that will culminate in a giant crossover that will see the Transformers evolve into Go-Bots.

...and fight Thanos!

Well, that's all they have. Kang or Doom would make more sense.

I guess we still need Disney to buy Hasbro so that we can get Circuit Breaker back, re-release issue #3 and finally settle Unicron vs Galactus...

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah and it's a non-linear mess. For most of us fans it's probably acceptable because we're used to it, but try to explain it to the average moviegoer who just wants to watch all relevant parts of the story. It's confusing.

"So this movie calls back to these other things, you can watch them if you want to get the references but you don't need to, it's not really a series, they're all just kinda doing their own thing. Don't worry about it."

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:My only concern about it is that the Bot designs aren't great. Too same-y with OP, Megs, Elita-1 as main cast along with all the miner types (see the Iacon race scene & Blokees model kits).

Without spoiling anything, there is an in-story reason for that.

One of the trailer said "they were brothers" so my guess is that they're functionist miners and made the same along with many others, and they're in a lower cast so that's why when Elita-1 saw OP & Megs in the Iacon race she was so surprised & excited and called on all miners (sort of brethens?) to watch the race. That's my guest.

Note that I'm not saying the designs are BAD, the never-skipped-legs-day design is a problem and I'm OK with it really, it's just that I want a lot more body variations on a shelf. That's why the toy buying urge might be dampened for me on this toyline.

But Bee is a winner. I said it before that this is the best looking Bee ever for me.

Still, I haven't looked forward to a TF movie as TF:1 since '07.

Glyph wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It's all one giant Multiverse that will culminate in a giant crossover that will see the Transformers evolve into Go-Bots.

...and fight Thanos!

Well, that's all they have. Kang or Doom would make more sense.

I guess we still need Disney to buy Hasbro so that we can get Circuit Breaker back, re-release issue #3 and finally settle Unicron vs Galactus...

IDW's last reprint volumes of the Marvel G1 comics included issue #3 in all its Symbiote Spidey glory, and remastered to boot.

cloudballoon wrote:One of the trailer said "they were brothers"

Without spoiling anything, that's just a reference to their friendship. The Aligned backstory lore that's become the standard backstory lore for several modern versions of Transformers fiction established Optimus and Megatron as former friends who were once as close as brothers before falling out and becoming sworn enemies. It stemmed from a line spoken by Optimus in the 2007 movie after Megatron was killed by Sam shoving the AllSpark in his chest: "You left me no choice, brother." Then the Prime cartoon had Optimus describe Megatron as "someone I once considered a brother". It's less literal siblings and more of a close bond of friendship.

cloudballoon wrote:it's just that I want a lot more body variations on a shelf.

william-james88 wrote:Positive-wise, it means the film accomplishes its mission of telling an origin story for not just these characters but for their factions too within just one hour and a half. Negative-wise, it means a lot of story beats are rushed. Optimus goes from a guy who doesn't really respect the rules to the Optimus Prime we know in a few days while Megatron also goes through a significant change in parallel. So take that as you wish. I personally would have wanted more time spent on this, but I also recognize how efficient the story telling is to convey all this in a short movie for all ages.

This, I feel, stems from the fact that it's an animated Hollywood movie in general. Historically, animated Hollywood films have tended to be kept under 2 hours in length, as it seems there's still a belief in Hollywood that "casual moviegoers won't want to sit through a 2-hour cartoon", rooted in that age-old belief that live-action is better than animation because "live-action is for adults/matured audiences while animation is for children/losers/stupid people".

Looking at Wikipedia's list of longest animated films, the vast majority of films on the list are Asian in origin (Japan, China, Russia, India), and of the films listed as exceeding 2 hours in length, only seven are from the United States. And of those seven, four of them are independent movies. Of the remaining three, two of them weren't fully animated films, as Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings used a hybrid of animation with live-action rotoscoping, while Disney's Fantasia had plenty of live-action segments interspersed between its animated short segments. This leaves only one US film on that list that was completely animated and longer than two hours, that being Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, which was itself a big gamble of a film leaving itself on such a massive cliffhanger, but which it could better pull off after having had such a successful preceding Spider-Verse film to help boost its own chances of success.

So, Transformers One being an animated Hollywood film was always gonna have an uphill battle in making its runtime be as long as it could be.

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:As someone who has felt starved for good Transformers media (comics excluded) since Prime ended, I hope this movie is successful enough for Hasbro and Paramount to lean into.

Gods, I miss Prime. I don't understand why these shows aren't easy to get on Blu-Ray. I prefer a physical copy of stuff like this because when they disappear from streamers (as Prime has) there's no means of watching it. (It's why I want a boxset of netflix Voltron as well.).

Lookin' forward to ONE. While I will probably always prefer the IDW version of Pax the cop and Megatron the Miner come revolutionary, I will always welcome new ideas. I learnt my lesson after watching Beast Wars years (and years and YEARS!) ago thanks to AlexKingdom and finding that it was *gasp* GOOD?!?

~ Grim

Big Grim wrote:Gods, I miss Prime. I don't understand why these shows aren't easy to get on Blu-Ray. I prefer a physical copy of stuff like this because when they disappear from streamers (as Prime has) there's no means of watching it. (It's why I want a boxset of netflix Voltron as well.).

Lookin' forward to ONE. While I will probably always prefer the IDW version of Pax the cop and Megatron the Miner come revolutionary, I will always welcome new ideas. I learnt my lesson after watching Beast Wars years (and years and YEARS!) ago thanks to AlexKingdom and finding that it was *gasp* GOOD?!?

~ Grim

No joke, of all TF content, the one that feels most similar to this film is the Prime show. Very much for kids, but with lots of nice lore for longtime fans.

I do find it cute how the film has a predictable twist for adults but something that could be mindblowing for a 6-8 year old.

Big Grim wrote:While I will probably always prefer the IDW version of Pax the cop and Megatron the Miner come revolutionary, I will always welcome new ideas.

I've always been more of a fan of the Aligned data clerk origin vs the IDW cop origin, but that may just be because I didn't love IDW Prime in particular.

But miner-gladiator-revolutionary Megatron is unmatched. That, to me, is the definitive Megatron origin story. (Although I do love the Armada-esque "opposing military commander with respect for his rival" take on the character too)

Big Grim wrote:

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Gods, I miss Prime. I don't understand why these shows aren't easy to get on Blu-Ray.

Well they aren't too ridiculous yet. Id get them while you can. I got all Prime the blu rays when they were first released. But right now on Amazon S1 is about$38, S2 is $48, S3 is $20, and Predacons Rising is: $15, so the whole series for around $120. It could be far worse, once these really go OOP.


As for the TF One film budget. I bet at least a third of it was the celebrity VA's. salary. I've noticed with the Godzilla Monsterverse entries, each one gets bigger in spectacle, but they choose actors who are less famous, which actually helps. Kong Skull island was loaded with A List actors , but arguably was far more expensive because of it. GxK actually had a cheaper budget, but more went into the story and Effects than the actors.

I appreciate that the A List actors for TF One are getting praised, but if we had actual industry VA's the budget for this film could have been under 50M, and would have been just as well liked I'd imagine.

At Cinemacon, we saw an Orion Pax popcorn bucket that seemed transformable. We have since seen the Cinemark popcorn buckets for Transformers One, which you can see below, and those did not include that transforming bucket. And now we know how AMC's Transformers One popcorn bucket looks like and it is not that either. So that Orion Pax transforming popcorn bucket is MIA.

For AMC, it turns out their bucket is unoriginal. It's just a tin with the characters on it. They also have cups with toppers.

For Cinemark, you will see below that they offer a B-127 Popcorn Container with lanyard , an Orion Pax Snack & Drink Vessel, a Cup and Topper Combo Set, Fleece Blanket and Enamel 4-Pin Set.

You can see all images below.

AMC





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Nowhere

The transforming popcorn bucket was the only interesting one! (╯‵□′)╯︵┻━┻

Emerje

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:I've always been more of a fan of the Aligned data clerk origin vs the IDW cop origin, but that may just be because I didn't love IDW Prime in particular.

I liked him just fine until somewhere after Dark Cybertron. He really went downhill when he got the self-titled book. I like the aligned/Prime data clerk version too but I kinda adore the hero cop nonsense. I think it might talk to the eighties action film fan in me. Plus, y'know, the idealised "Prime is a goddamn hero" feeling a lotta characters held him up too.

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:But miner-gladiator-revolutionary Megatron is unmatched. That, to me, is the definitive Megatron origin story. (Although I do love the Armada-esque "opposing military commander with respect for his rival" take on the character too)

I do have a soft spot for Armada Megatron and good ol' Beast Wars Megatron. Prime Megs was a delight as well but no one showed the character grown that IDW Megs had, in my opinion.

o.supreme wrote:Well they aren't too ridiculous yet. Id get them while you can. I got all Prime the blu rays when they were first released. But right now on Amazon S1 is about$38, S2 is $48, S3 is $20, and Predacons Rising is: $15, so the whole series for around $120. It could be far worse, once these really go OOP.

Ah. I'm in the UK and as far as I'm aware, these are still region locked.

~ Grim

Big Grim wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Well they aren't too ridiculous yet. Id get them while you can. I got all Prime the blu rays when they were first released. But right now on Amazon S1 is about$38, S2 is $48, S3 is $20, and Predacons Rising is: $15, so the whole series for around $120. It could be far worse, once these really go OOP.

Ah. I'm in the UK and as far as I'm aware, these are still region locked.

I believe they're all here for the grabbing, but absolutely this trend of "No physical media, pay for streaming forever until we take it away anyway" needs to die in a fire ASAP.

o.supreme wrote:As for the TF One film budget. I bet at least a third of it was the celebrity VA's. salary. ... I appreciate that the A List actors for TF One are getting praised, but if we had actual industry VA's the budget for this film could have been under 50M, and would have been just as well liked I'd imagine

NGL, I'd prefer actual VAs over big-name casting just about always, but I understand the studio calculus that assumes they need the names to bring in the casual viewers. Pretty likely that the movie cast won't voice any tie-in media past the first game and will just get more expensive for each sequel; maybe we'll get a Bayverse Megs situation and end up with classic / industry VAs doing the voices in tie-in media until they eventually take over the movies too. May the series last so long!

Big Grim wrote:(It's why I want a boxset of netflix Voltron as well.).

Oh, God....I SOOOOO want this. Anyone want a kidney in exchange?

Glyph wrote:I believe they're all here for the grabbing.

Shiny, thank you!

First-Aid wrote:

Big Grim wrote:(It's why I want a boxset of netflix Voltron as well.).

Oh, God....I SOOOOO want this. Anyone want a kidney in exchange?

Right? I would GLADLY pay for a physical set of that show.

~ Grim

Regarding Voltron:

Here in the U.S. there's a 26 episode S1/2 set which seems to be unavailable at the moment.

The "S3-S6" 26 episode DVD set is still inexpensive, only $17: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QHJ9HX3/re ... Bfc2hhcmVk?tag=seibertron07-20&

There's been a rumor for along time, the reason why "S7-S8" (the last 26 episodes) were never released on DVD was because the writing took a huge nosedive and the series ending was very poorly written, which is a shame because for those first few years it was great.

Id still purchase the whole thing if it was offered, but it is odd because another show that DreamWorks produced and Netflix Distributed (Dragons race to the Edge) got fully released on DVD.


Regarding the TFO Popcorn Bucket--Maybe because of the general audience the film is made for, they wanted to avoid contributing to the weirdness of Popcorn Buckets that has occurred in 2024. Not saying there's anything wrong with a Transforming bucket, but you know it would probably be included in some articles compared with others of questionable taste

Spoiler warning: Watch this only after you've seen the movie, cuz they mention a few things from the movie in this:

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Do we know one way or another at this point if this is in-continuity with the live action movies? My guess would be it's not, but I haven't been able to find a confirmed answer online.

Major spoilers below:

Having seen the movie, I don’t see how it could possibly be made to connect.

Sentinel Prime is dead, Optimus does not look up to him, and Megatron would never work with him.

Megatronus is not The Fallen and is dead.

The Matrix is on Cybertron, not with the Primes on Earth.

Speaking of, the Primes died on Cybertron, not Earth.

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Do we know one way or another at this point if this is in-continuity with the live action movies? My guess would be it's not, but I haven't been able to find a confirmed answer online.

Major spoilers below:

Having seen the movie, I don’t see how it could possibly be made to connect.

Sentinel Prime is dead, Optimus does not look up to him, and Megatron would never work with him.

Megatronus is not The Fallen and is dead.

The Matrix is on Cybertron, not with the Primes on Earth.

Speaking of, the Primes died on Cybertron, not Earth.

Like I told'ja before, it's impossible for this to fit with either ROTF or DOTM.

Sabrblade wrote:

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Do we know one way or another at this point if this is in-continuity with the live action movies? My guess would be it's not, but I haven't been able to find a confirmed answer online.

Major spoilers below:

Having seen the movie, I don’t see how it could possibly be made to connect.

Sentinel Prime is dead, Optimus does not look up to him, and Megatron would never work with him.

Megatronus is not The Fallen and is dead.

The Matrix is on Cybertron, not with the Primes on Earth.

Speaking of, the Primes died on Cybertron, not Earth.

Like I told'ja before, it's impossible for this to fit with either ROTF or DOTM.

Clap your hands and say it with me! MULTIVERSE!!!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Clap your hands and say it with me! MULTIVERSE!!!

In the Live Action series, there's 3 universes already.

-- The first trilogy

-- The Knights duology

-- The Beeasts duology.

As for TF1, it should be in the CARTOON forums because it is 100% animated and it's its own thing, far removed from the L.A series. Both in style and story.

Anyway, I'll be able to see the movie this Sunday. I'm looking forward to it.

Maybe this one should be renamed to the Movie Forum?

Glyph wrote:Maybe this one should be renamed to the Movie Forum?

That would make sense.

It's an excellent film and there's not ONE human in sight. Phew.


MILD SPOILER ISH BUT NOT REALLY....

One scene in particular, near the end (you'll know it when you see it) is absolutely epic. Also, a bit shocking, as it's unexpected.

Transformers One is OUT! So now a lot of reviewers are sharing their 2 squirts of energon. We compiled some below from Jerem Jahns, Dan Murrel, Christ Struckman and John Campea. Also for fun, we included IGN's which has some pretty odd takes, like how the lack of humans means we are now unable to get a good sense of scale without realizing that the lack of humans here is a feature and not a flaw. Speaking of takes, Jeremy makes a pretty fun connection that only a fan would get.

But please remember, these reviews are just meant to help the public get an idea of what they are in for with this film, there is no use being upset if one reviewer has a different opinion.

I went to see the movie again today and the specific screening I saw was a subtitled one. Since I had the whole room all to myself, I was able to whip out my phone and take some notes on some things I observed in the subtitles:

- This first thing went by really fast and so may need to be double-checked: The two guards who chase Orion Pax in the archives at the beginning of the movie refer to themselves as "KDQ-12" and "KDQ-1".

- Throughout the entire movie, the subtitles consistently spelled Elita's full name as "Elita One" (like how her G1 cartoon counterpart's name was spelled in the script for the episode "The Search for Alpha Trion"). However, this stands in contrast to how both the voice cast list in the end credits, as well as Hasbro's current trademark for all toys of her, spell her name as "Elita-1".

- Names of Iacon 5000 racers I caught being spoken aloud (by D-16, Orion, or the announcer) were "Thunderglide", "Behemoth", "Strafe", "Skyfire", "Darkwing", "Spinout", "Jetstorm", and "Chromia", all spelled like so in the subtitles.

-After the race, a female voice paged "Dr. Ratchet" to report to "Medical Bay 94" (this one also went by quick, and could have been a different number like "84").

- B-127's two nicknames were consistently spelled as just "B" (like how D-16's nickname is just "D") and "Badassatron", clarifying that neither are spelled "Bee" or "Badassitron" as some fans have used. Also, whenever B spoke his other nickname in the deep voice, the subs consistently spelled that version as "Badassatronnnn" with four Ns at the end.

- The names of B's three lifeless "friends" made of junk were spelled "EP-508", "A-A-Tron", and "Steve" (though, the first two also went by quick, so they too may need to be double-checked).

- When Orion Pax speaks of the "Quintesson war", the subs spell it like so, with a lowercase W in "War", making it look less like a formal name for the war and more just a descriptor.

- Elita's "go-bots" insult was spelled like so, hyphenated and in all-lowercase.

- "High Guard" was consistently spelled like so as two separate words, all except for one instance where Elita called them "High-Guard nutjobs", hyphenating it instead.

And a more casual observation that Orion once used the phrase "My God" (spelled like that with an uppercase G in the subs), which felt odd and very Earth-specific given that B used "Holy Primus" at one point earlier. Elita also used "Hell" at least once. I know these are movies made by Earth humans who are going to make these alien characters speak like Earth humans to make them sound natural and relatable to Earth-human audiences, but still. It took me out of the moment for a sec.

I don't know who any of these people are.

I don't care who any of these people are

We do have a spoiler thread. Post it there and no need for spoiler tags.

Is the movie worth seeing in 3D?

ScottyP wrote:I don't know who any of these people are.

I don't care who any of these people are

Let me tell you:

Chris Stuckman
Used to be a decent reviewer but doesn't critisize movies anymore since he made one of his own. In short he's a hypocrite and doesn't really say anything in his reviews anymore.

Second guy I don't know

John Campea, absolute industry shill. Defends absolute garbage stuff. Very little credibility.

Jeremy Jahns
Good guy, tells when he sees crap. Fun guy, Soul Reaver 1 fan so I'm biased as hell.

IGN
A commercial media channel, so take anything they say with a meteor of salt.

noctorro wrote:

ScottyP wrote:I don't know who any of these people are.

I don't care who any of these people are

Let me tell you:

Jeremy Jahns
Good guy, tells when he sees crap. Fun guy, Soul Reaver 1 fan so I'm biased as hell.

I'm not surprised that the one with the least annoying look on his face in the thumbnail is the only good one. Wow, Soul Reaver, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I loved that game when it came out, sequels weren't terrible either. Bounced off of the first Legacy of Kain several times, just couldn't get into it, but yeah the rest was solid.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is the movie worth seeing in 3D?

I saw it 3D, but got so into it that I forgot it was 3D.

I stand by my choice of 3D over IMAX, since there was so much to take in during crowd scenes like the race that a wider screen might have just resulted in me missing some of the action/possible cameos. IDR anything lunging at the camera, but the transformations probably lose a little something in 2D.

noctorro wrote:

ScottyP wrote:I don't know who any of these people are.

I don't care who any of these people are

Let me tell you:

Chris Stuckman
Used to be a decent reviewer but doesn't critisize movies anymore since he made one of his own. In short he's a hypocrite and doesn't really say anything in his reviews anymore.

Second guy I don't know

John Campea, absolute industry shill. Defends absolute garbage stuff. Very little credibility.

Jeremy Jahns
Good guy, tells when he sees crap. Fun guy, Soul Reaver 1 fan so I'm biased as hell.

IGN
A commercial media channel, so take anything they say with a meteor of salt.

The second guy is Dan Murrel who used to work at Screen junkies, the people who write Honest Trailers, and employ fellow Seibertronian and voice actor in this very film Jon Bailey.

Looks like Transformers One is going to have an uphill battle at the box office. The film was predicted to make upwards of 30 million dollars this week-end BUT it looks like it will be making 5 million less. Numbers are not final, but as of now the estimates are that it will have made 25 million this week-end and coming in second place to Beetlejuice which made one million more. Of course, as mentioned, these are early estimates and it could change who wins this week-end box office wise, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a much closer race than thought.

And it's too bad since Transformers One is liked by fans, critics and the general movie going public. Its Cinemascore, which is an average of the ranking gave in exit polls that predicts the longevity of a film is an A. That is an amazing score, and the same score given to films like Avengers Endgame and Inside Out 2 (and a ton of other movies that did amazing at the box office). For comparison, Rise of the Beasts and Bumblebee had an A- while The Last Knight had a B+, and The Marvels got a B (just to show the gammet).

This cinemascore means that the conversation on box office is just beginning as other films that opened low with great scores still came out on top, like Bumblebee and Elemental. As for international box office, Transformers One and it's competitor next week, The Wild Robot, have a staggered worldwide release so it won't be obvious how well either film does overall right away. We will keep you covered week to week.

Below is an excerpt from The Hollywood Reporter, which shows how it's still too early to judge Transformers One as a success or flop.

The jury is out on the film’s ultimate fate. The modestly budgeted event pic, co-financed by Habro, cost $75 million to produce before marketing, which minimizes the sting of the weak domestic opening. The hope now is that it can find its footing and enjoy a long run in theaters based on such strong exits and reviews, although the entry of DreamWorks Animation and Universal’s The Wild Robot next weekend could complicated matters, at least on the family front. (Wild Robot commenced its international rollout in eight markets over the weekend, earning $6.9 million, which includes a paltry $4 million from China.)

I was afraid of this when there were only 8 people besides myself in the 3D showing on Friday. It was 1:00 PM though, and I assumed more families would come to see it once kids were out of school.

Oh well, at least it isn't too far below projections, and seems to be getting mostly positive word of mouth.

While there is no release date yet, Amazon has the preorder up for the Transformers One home video release. We now know what the standard cover will look like and what the Steelbook cover will look like. Images and links are below.

Amazon.com

DVD https://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-One- ... 8&qid=&sr=?tag=seibertron0b-20&
Steelbook https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0DGV6 ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron0b-20&

Amazon.ca

DVD https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-One ... 836&sr=8-1?tag=seibertron07-20&
Steelbook https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Ste ... 156&sr=8-1?tag=seibertron07-20&

Standard



Steelbook

I just came back from the movie and yup.

Hands down the BEST Transformers movie so far. Everything clicks, everything makes sense, and not a single cringe moment, nor forced current day "message". This will make TF1 TIMELESS. It will be as good in 50 years as it is right now.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I just came back from the movie and yup.

Hands down the BEST Transformers movie so far. Everything clicks, everything makes sense, and not a single cringe moment, nor forced current day "message". This will make TF1 TIMELESS. It will be as good in 50 years as it is right now.

Do you also think the badassatron joke paid off? Because i was surprised it did

Proabably some franchise fatigue have something to do with the slower start?

Some "fans" that can only accept a TF media in a narrowly defined "acceptable" way might also have hurt the box office?

cloudballoon wrote:Proabably some franchise fatigue have something to do with the slower start?

Some "fans" that can only accept a TF media in a narrowly defined "acceptable" way might also have hurt the box office?

Well, seeing as there was a TF movie in theaters last year, a lot of more casual fans probably find it odd that there's an origin movie so soon after, if they assume origin=reboot.

And to clarify, RotB is my third favorite live action TF film after AofE and Bee Movie, so please don't assume I'm implying its quality (averageness) was the problem. I think it is partly recent film frequency and not necessarily long-term franchise fatigue.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I just came back from the movie and yup.

Hands down the BEST Transformers movie so far. Everything clicks, everything makes sense, and not a single cringe moment, nor forced current day "message". This will make TF1 TIMELESS. It will be as good in 50 years as it is right now.

Do you also think the badassatron joke paid off? Because i was surprised it did

"Who wants to get cut?"

Also, I do hope y'all stayed for the post-credits scene.

Won't watch it in theatres. Don't go anymore. Bought the DVD.