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Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:48 pm

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Overcracker wrote:What they need to do is a new main toyline that is not G1 updated like the Generations lines have been.
Let me introduce you to a couple of main lines called EarthSpark and Rise of the Beasts. ;)
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Overcracker » Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:45 pm

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Overcracker wrote:What they need to do is a new main toyline that is not G1 updated like the Generations lines have been.
Let me introduce you to a couple of main lines called EarthSpark and Rise of the Beasts. ;)


I did mention Earthspark which they seem to be less than enthusiastic about, and Rise of the Beasts is all but finished no?

But fine, I'll bite: what "new" character from either of those lines would work for a titan class toy? And would people actually want it?
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:09 pm

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Overcracker wrote:What they need to do is a new main toyline that is not G1 updated like the Generations lines have been.
Let me introduce you to a couple of main lines called EarthSpark and Rise of the Beasts. ;)


I did mention Earthspark which they seem to be less than enthusiastic about, and Rise of the Beasts is all but finished no?

But fine, I'll bite: what "new" character from either of those lines would work for a titan class toy? And would people actually want it?
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And if we want to go back a couple of cartoons, Cyberverse introduced three brand new Titans:

Croaton
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Iaconus
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The Dweller
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Meanwhile, Rescue Bots Academy introduced another new Titan:

Citadel Secundus
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Overcracker » Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:29 pm

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Interesting. Croaton likely has a better change than the rest. Not sure how many would actuallly drop titan money for the Dweller or Iaconus.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:06 pm

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Overcracker wrote:Interesting. Croaton likely has a better change than the rest. Not sure how many would actuallly drop titan money for the Dweller or Iaconus.
I Agree about the Dweller (since only his head was ever seen and not the rest of his body), but Iaconus made a big impression (pun intended) in season 3 of Cyberverse, being the literal robot mode of the city of Iaconus.

Not too mention the epic Titan battle fought between the berserk Iaconus and the Quintesson-possessed Croaton.

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:19 pm

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Ill admit I have preferences in that, if Hasbro/TT made the 2 Titans on my list, Id pretty much be done and never feel the need to purchase another one again. But still, in trying to conform my preferences to Hasbro Marketing...

If Legacy (and presumably other future lines) are a celebration of all eras, they of course want to branch out. Get different characters from other universes into more size classes. They've done almost all the OG series Titans. Tidal Wave will be the 2nd UT Titan. There have been no "Beast" era Titans yet, and arguably there can only be one, Majin Zarak. As niche as it may seem...I think it would be amazing.

*For any thinking a TR Trypticon retool into Gigastorm would be a good idea, remember the character is NOT a Titan in fiction, he is slightly bigger than average bot, CC would be perfect, but that would necessitate a brand new toy.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:31 pm

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o.supreme wrote:For any thinking a TR Trypticon retool into Gigastorm would be a good idea, remember the character is NOT a Titan in fiction, he is slightly bigger than average bot, CC would be perfect, but that would necessitate a brand new toy.
Little known fact about Gigastorm, He's actually a size-changer. He's much smaller when inside Galvatron's ship than he is when he's outside it. He's normally quite huge (probably about as big as G1 Trypticon was in the Marvel comics), but uses a size-changing laser to shrink himself down so he can fit inside the base, and once had Galvatron overuse that laser on him to shrink Gigastorm down to tiny size as a punishment for one of his schemes against Galvatron.

Placing Titan Trypticon next to original Beast Wars molds to compare their scale to each other, the Titan mold isn't too far off in size from how big Gigastorm was compared to his teammates when outside the base. In fact, he'd probably be the only Titan who would actually be in scale with normal-sized Cores/Deluxes/Voyagers/Leaders.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:00 pm

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True , but there's a lot of Transformers that vary in Size. BWII Galvatron became giant also when powered up with Algomois energy. Starscream in Galaxy Force/Cybertron etc...But having them be their normal size would be perfectly fine for a modern toy. Id be perfectly fine with a CC Gigastorm, but I feel that's far down the list of choices of characters right now.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby First-Aid » Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:22 pm

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Overcracker wrote:What they need to do is a new main toyline that is not G1 updated like the Generations lines have been.
Let me introduce you to a couple of main lines called EarthSpark and Rise of the Beasts. ;)


ROTB is still not new original characters. And EarthSpark is really just G1 in an alternate universe. Again, nothing really earthshattering.

We need something completely off the rails...

Then again, I don't know how much the most recent layoffs at Hasbro are going to affect things. Generally, losing 20% of your workforce slows things down a bit.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:29 am

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It's a neat idea to have a Titan figure of a brand new never-before-heard-of character, but as it was pointed out before, I doubt Hasbro would take the financial risk.

I do agree that the next few years should shift focus from G1 and move on to other toylines, specifically Car Robots. So many opportunities.

As for future titans, even though I just wrote G1 needs to take a backseat, I do think that Metroplex is on serious need of an update, if not a completely new mold.

And my personal preference, not shared by most, is that the rest of the combiners could be released as Titans, with the group leader a commander class figure and the limbs voyagers instead of deluxes, especially in Superion's case. But my #1 wish for the next titan would be JRX. 3 leader-sized trains combining. Then Omega Prime.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Burn » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:48 am

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First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:What they need to do is a new main toyline that is not G1 updated like the Generations lines have been.
Let me introduce you to a couple of main lines called EarthSpark and Rise of the Beasts. ;)


ROTB is still not new original characters. And EarthSpark is really just G1 in an alternate universe. Again, nothing really earthshattering.

We need something completely off the rails...


A genuine telling of the war on Cybertron. Yes, it still has that G1 connection, BUT, you have your regular characters like Prime and Megatron as background characters, introduce new characters, ones that fight on the front line, tell the story from the trenches, not from the leadership. At some point they can encounter a new Titan.

You get an all new story with new characters connecting to existing characters, you get all new designs, all new toys, an all new mythology. It's a lot of work.

It's why it'll never happen.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:15 am

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Still wouldnt mind oversized eaten too much energon insecticons as titans (as long as they are fully fuctioning flying drones). Astro train needs to go bigger, full ride on style in train mode.

Then maybe since they did the bumblebee/prime mask things...a Titan sized Beast machines megatron head that you can actually wear and maybe a wearable unicron head too that just forms into a playset/scenes from the movie.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Nemesis Destron » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:48 am

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:42 am

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I was under the impression, it was exactly the same? Which surprises me in that, I know they don't like to include electronics in TF's any more because of the expense, and propensity to break down. I thought they may have removed them, but not so far as I am aware.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:09 pm

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:08 pm

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Nemesis Destron wrote:Hey crew, so how many more accessories is the upcoming Fort Max to have over the previous release? :VEHI:
What upcoming Fort Max? :???:


I assumed he was talking about the reissue of the 2016 TR Titan Fortress Maximus. I think it was supposed to be released this month, but was pushed back to the Summer. As far as I'm aware, its exactly the same as the 2016 release. Other reissued Titans have been exactly the same, there's no reason to indicate as afar as I know, this one would be different.

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:16 pm

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Biggest difference is it will be a core class sized figure at titan price
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:25 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:Biggest difference is it will be a core class sized figure at titan price
Sweet! Then I'll actually have room to fit it in my collection! :D
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:29 pm

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o.supreme wrote:I was under the impression, it was exactly the same? Which surprises me in that, I know they don't like to include electronics in TF's any more because of the expense, and propensity to break down. I thought they may have removed them, but not so far as I am aware.

It's a 2016 figure at 2024 prices so they aren't really losing anything by keeping the electronics. At this point the mold has been used so many times it's already been long paid for so this is really one of those releases that are largely profit.

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby #1 Signal Lancer fan » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:12 am

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Potential future titans I'd love to see:

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    Prime Unicron


I'm sure I've missed some other great candidates here
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Nemesis Destron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:29 pm

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Holy crap to get either Road Caesar or Metrotitan...c'mon with it HasLab!!!! :VEHI:
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:17 am

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Well, fans are starting to get Tidal Wave in hand, and the reviews I've seen seem to be pretty positive. As for me, I have every Titan so far (13). I said I wasn't going to get the Guardian Robot, but I was able to find it on sale for $150 on Amazon recently.

I'm not really interested in Tidal Wave as a character, but owning every Titan so far now might be some sort of subconscious burden. However space is becoming an issue. Also there's the perplexing omission that the Base Mode has no AIRLOCK connectors, which is odd. I cant understand The design teams reasoning...

2021 - The ARK - Has no ability to connect with any other Titans, but this makes sense as it is an independent space ship with no base mode.

2022 - Cybertron Metroplex - Also has no Base mode, but they threw in AIRLOCK connectors just for the heck of it.

2023 - The Nemesis (same, - No Base Mode but threw in AIRLOCK connectors to simulate the Boarding Schutte scene from the first episode, however the ARK itself doesn't have this feature :???: )

2024 - Tidal Wave - Has a Base mode but no AIRLOCK connectors :???:

despite these small misgivings, I hope that everyone who wants Tidal wave gets it, and enjoys it. I'm going to again gamble on this one. I'm going to say that if it goes on deep discount, Ill get it. If not, then so be it.

I waited on Cybertron Metroplex for about 6 months, and it served me well. Even now, two years later its still available for almost half price. However I got the Nemesis right away , and I'm glad I did, since it never went on discount. Tidal wave could go either way. Since he is not an Original Series character, there will be less popularity, but probably more so than for Cybertron Metroplex. However villain characters seem to be produced in smaller quantities, so this could be the same for Tidal Wave leading to it selling out relatively soon. I guess we'll wait and see.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:33 pm

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Honestly, my biggest reason for getting TW is the video game. He was not a favorite of mine in the cartoon and wasn't even in the comic IIRC. But I've been wanting a Titan TW for 10 years now. I just wish his colors were toy accurate instead of toon accurate. Yes, I know he got a purple toy in Japan.

Now if Hasbro does me dirty and releases a new deco in Selects like they did Black Zarak, I'll... Just buy that one too I guess. >:oP
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:45 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Now if Hasbro does me dirty and releases a new deco in Selects like they did Black Zarak, I'll... Just buy that one too I guess. >:oP


I think many who are a fan of that PS2 Armada game are counting on it (I'm personally much more of a fan of Transformers Tataki, which came out a year earlier, but only in Japan ;) )

The only question is, will they do the straight Green deco from Armada, or add the Lightning effects from Energon? -I seriously doubt we'd ever get a 3rd version of TW. Although they could go the UK/ Toy Galvatron route....

They could have a Selects Green Tidal Wave, and add Lightning Effects stickers as an option. :-?
Bucket/Want List: Botcon 2016 Customization Class Ratchet (G2 Deco), or Customization Class Ratchet (Marvel Comics Deco) **would also be willing to pay for an Unpainted Botcon 2016 Ratchet, TT Legends Fortress Head (only) with working Electronics

Wish List of Modern Combiners: Road Caesar, Monstructor & Dinoking (proper size to fiction), Landcross, Guard City, Battle Gaia, & G2 Defensor. Wish List of Titans:Metrotitan,Majin Zarak
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