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Sowndwave76 wrote:I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

SS69 proved otherwise.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

SS69 proved otherwise.

Yeah, to me it would be strange if they did box sets like that, the SS86 Autobot set, the SS '07 movie Autobot and Decepticon sets and the Legacy Evolution Stunticon set, but not an 86 Constructicon set that's only $20 more but has six figures instead of five? I have strong doubts about that one.

Emerje

SS86 Leader class SWOOP is up for home delivery off Smyths website in Ireland now .

https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/toy ... e/p/233785

which leads me to believe the lad himself will make an appearance on the shelves in brick and mortar stores on the 5th like they mooted .

so thats 2 days time from posting.

its gotta be the same in the UK for you lads so heres a chance to get him and finish the set at last.

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

SS69 proved otherwise.

Yeah, to me it would be strange if they did box sets like that, the SS86 Autobot set, the SS '07 movie Autobot and Decepticon sets and the Legacy Evolution Stunticon set, but not an 86 Constructicon set that's only $20 more but has six figures instead of five? I have strong doubts about that one.

Emerje

A few of those sets you listed cost anywhere from $110-$150...
If Hastak makes a gift set of the SS86 Constructicons, that's 2 deluxes ($50), 2 voyagers ($70), and a CC release ($90)-- $210 before tax.
I bought that Autobot 5 pack for $119.73 total... On top of the Menasor giftset being exclusive, it's clearly targeted at collectors. No kid or non-collector even understands what "toy deco" means. So if a set like this (the toy version Menasor) is such a guaranteed money-maker, then why wasn't it released to mass retail?

But the main point, that some collectors don't consider or don't care about, is that the average, non-collecting person-- kid or adult-- isn't going to jump at spending $50+ on a toy.
Hell, there have been plenty of posts made on these forums over the years by people who are more into collecting than me that state something close to, "... I'll wait until it goes on sale...". Or, "...I'll consider it if I can get it on a sale..."
And weird, that's not just in regards to releases that are $100+.

Releasing the SS86 Constructicons in some exclusive, re-decoed giftset is of course possible.
But again, my point is that a $200+ set of toys is not an easy sell. If you think it is, and you're including the general public and consumers across the board, you've got your head so far up your collection that you're grossly out of touch with reality.

SS69 doesn't prove anything... For every one collector who bought that, there are literally dozens of collectors and non-collectors who didn't.

Not sure how my previous post went through twice...

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

SS69 proved otherwise.

Yeah, to me it would be strange if they did box sets like that, the SS86 Autobot set, the SS '07 movie Autobot and Decepticon sets and the Legacy Evolution Stunticon set, but not an 86 Constructicon set that's only $20 more but has six figures instead of five? I have strong doubts about that one.

Emerje

A few of those sets you listed cost anywhere from $110-$150...
If Hastak makes a gift set of the SS86 Constructicons, that's 2 deluxes ($50), 2 voyagers ($70), and a CC release ($90)-- $210 before tax.
I bought that Autobot 5 pack for $119.73 total... On top of the Menasor giftset being exclusive, it's clearly targeted at collectors. No kid or non-collector even understands what "toy deco" means. So if a set like this (the toy version Menasor) is such a guaranteed money-maker, then why wasn't it released to mass retail?

But the main point, that some collectors don't consider or don't care about, is that the average, non-collecting person-- kid or adult-- isn't going to jump at spending $50+ on a toy.
Hell, there have been plenty of posts made on these forums over the years by people who are more into collecting than me that state something close to, "... I'll wait until it goes on sale...". Or, "...I'll consider it if I can get it on a sale..."
And weird, that's not just in regards to releases that are $100+.

Releasing the SS86 Constructicons in some exclusive, re-decoed giftset is of course possible.
But again, my point is that a $200+ set of toys is not an easy sell. If you think it is, and you're including the general public and consumers across the board, you've got your head so far up your collection that you're grossly out of touch with reality.

SS69 doesn't prove anything... For every one collector who bought that, there are literally dozens of collectors and non-collectors who didn't.

Overquoting to point out that you never mentioned "mass retail" in your original post, but only for the thing to be made specifically.

SS69 was a 275$US monstrosity and it sold out quickly. I sold mine with the DNA kit at my local geek store and it didn't even last a week on his display shelf. That's not counting all the Takara Masterpieces and 3P figures. SS69 proves everything.

Obviously, these are all aimed at the hardcore collectors and are produced in limited quantities. For all those who were foolish enough to wait for any of these toys to "be on sale", they only missed out and were stuck to pay double on eBay afterward.

The only 200$+ toys that you can wait for a sale are the Titans, because they are mass-retail. Easy to find, and often over-produced. They are not the same.

Yeah, what he said. Plus like I said before, we're only talking about a potential $20 difference between the Stunticon set and what a Constructicon set, that's nothing for a collector. And my point about the Autobot and Decepticon movie sets is that Hasbro can justify all sorts of sets when they want to in Studio Series so it makes all the sense in the world to do a box set that's ready made for them.

Emerje

I doubt it would matter much to anyone here but Commander Optimus Prime is in stock at CmdStore.com

Commander SS86 Optimus is fantastic. This is a real mini-MP with a transformation to match. Mine had the misassembled heels/tail lights so I did the fix... only to break part of a foot while figuring out the transformation.
DO NOT FORGET TO FLIP OUT THE CONNECTORS BEFORE FOLDING THE FEET FOR TRUCK MODE. If not, you will break something. I did not like a dummass. Fortunately, the break was minor and I could repair it.
Be warned.

Appart that, the rest of the transformation was easy enough to figure out. The irony is I think it is more complex than MP-01 and MP-10.

The truck is fantastic, appart a small gap at the back of the cab, but nothing deal-breaking.

The trailer is COMPLETE yet a bit plain paint-wise. I'm sure Reprolabels will fix that.

Overall, I do not regret it at all.

amazon just moved my SS-86 Prime delivery to October 27. Can't wait.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Has anyone come across any QC issues with commander Optimus Prime, specifically on getting the neck plate to sit flush in truck mode?

I just can't seem to get it to flip all the way over. It seems like interference between the edge of the neck plate and the front of the truck.

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The neck plate is SUPER SUPER tight and requires a level of pressure to snap into place that's well beyond normal levels of comfort.

I found that the "horns" of the head can rotate and contribute to how "tight" the plate is. If the horns are in the right position, the plate is easier to put in place.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Thanks Chuck and Kanra, got it. Man that was an uncomfortable amount of force. He really comes together nice in truck mode.

It is, it really is and I don't understand why.