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[Sabrblade]

He's probably sought after by collectors of the Dinobot mold.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

He's probably sought after by collectors of the Dinobot mold.

That's what I would assume also. That's why I grabbed Hellscream (for the Cybershark mold) after all.

I know, beyond the Grimlock redeco. That all the other Dinobot variants followed the toy design over the Mainframe model, on their respective shows. But I do think that Dinotron, Hardhead and Thrustor would look really cool designs on the MP Dinobot body.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I would guess GPS, but I have no proof of that and it isn't mentioned on TFWiki.

Emerje

If he would have GPS, my copy doesn't give any indication so far that he does.

He's probably sought after by collectors of the Dinobot mold.

This feels most likely.

I know, beyond the Grimlock redeco. That all the other Dinobot variants followed the toy design over the Mainframe model, on their respective shows. But I do think that Dinotron, Hardhead and Thrustor would look really cool designs on the MP Dinobot body.

I am honestly shocked that, given that Dinobot has at least 4 alternate uses for the mold, they haven't indicated they are going to make any of them yet. That's a bit of a shame

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I am honestly shocked that, given that Dinobot has at least 4 alternate uses for the mold, they haven't indicated they are going to make any of them yet. That's a bit of a shame

The longer the silence on the BW MP front, I'm starting to feel the cold shoulder of Takara. Like our resident Unicron Trilogy fan.

As far as the Kingdom Dinobot mold. Why we have a modern line now even featuring Nightprowler - a Cheetor variant who was never made - meanwhile the Dinobot mold has halted at Grimlock. That's so bizarre?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I am honestly shocked that, given that Dinobot has at least 4 alternate uses for the mold, they haven't indicated they are going to make any of them yet. That's a bit of a shame

The longer the silence on the BW MP front, I'm starting to feel the cold shoulder of Takara. Like our resident Unicron Trilogy fan.

As far as the Kingdom Dinobot mold. Why we have a modern line now even featuring Nightprowler - a Cheetor variant who was never made - meanwhile the Dinobot mold has halted at Grimlock. That's so bizarre?

I have this theory that Takara was doing the MP Beast Wars molds since no one else was making new beasts, and that was their avenue. Once Kingdom came around and the beasts returned to the mainline, and even more noteworthy were very good, and also were easier to sell with repaints/remolds, the BW MPs ceased since there was now another avenue for beasts. The BW MPs were pretty uber expensive too, coupled with the fact that I think Primal, Cheetor, and now Lio are the only ones to get reused to date, with nothing from Dinobot, Megatron, or Tigatron.

[ZeroWolf]

Wouldn't surprise me if Raiden was eating up a lot of the mp budget as other then Trailbreaker, there hasn't been a lot of mp news (scratch that, MP Skyfire)

[AllNewSuperRobot]

The BW MPs were pretty uber expensive too, coupled with the fact that I think Primal, Cheetor, and now Lio are the only ones to get reused to date, with nothing from Dinobot, Megatron, or Tigatron.

If they pulled their finger out, they could have had a couple of redecos out by now. Grimlock, T-Wrecks and Nightprowler from those examples alone. Ripping the electronics out of the former two would also lower the price considerably.

Maximals
Rhinox
Rattrap
Airazor

Predacons
Tarantulas
Terrorsaur
Scorponok
Inferno
EDIT: Waspinator (what a strange one to forget )

These bots are all that is left. We're halfway there! Closer to finishing than any other MP line. A significant push could finish it in 2-3 years. That's the frustrating bit.

Wouldn't surprise me if Raiden was eating up a lot of the mp budget as other then Trailbreaker, there hasn't been a lot of mp news (scratch that, MP Skyfire)

I suppose both of those are pretty big projects. I remain patient, for now.

[Emerje]

It's unfortunate that we don't even have any rumors as to what's coming up. Trailbreaker is only a couple months away and Jetfire is the month after, both are coming up quick! Theoretically Hoist should be up next, but if they're going for a cartoon accurate bot mode I'm not even sure he and Trailbreaker can share parts.

Emerje

[Sabrblade]

I am honestly shocked that, given that Dinobot has at least 4 alternate uses for the mold, they haven't indicated they are going to make any of them yet. That's a bit of a shame

The longer the silence on the BW MP front, I'm starting to feel the cold shoulder of Takara. Like our resident Unicron Trilogy fan.

As far as the Kingdom Dinobot mold. Why we have a modern line now even featuring Nightprowler - a Cheetor variant who was never made - meanwhile the Dinobot mold has halted at Grimlock. That's so bizarre?

I have this theory that Takara was doing the MP Beast Wars molds since no one else was making new beasts, and that was their avenue. Once Kingdom came around and the beasts returned to the mainline, and even more noteworthy were very good, and also were easier to sell with repaints/remolds, the BW MPs ceased since there was now another avenue for beasts. The BW MPs were pretty uber expensive too, coupled with the fact that I think Primal, Cheetor, and now Lio are the only ones to get reused to date, with nothing from Dinobot, Megatron, or Tigatron.

This sounds a little familiar.

I have a theory as to why Takara has eased off on the Beast Wars Masterpieces as of late.

Back in 2016, Hasbro opted to not celebrate the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars, instead favoring the 30th anniversary of TFTM. This led to others to celebrate the former in Hasbro's stead: Fun Pub's final BotCon boxed set was (mostly) Pre-Beast Wars-themed like their 2006 set was (which was the 10th anniversary of Beast Wars), Hasbro Asia gave us a Year of the Monkey Optimus Primal toy (which colored more like Optimus Prime instead), and Takara started making Masterpieces of Beast Wars characters.

Takara kept this going for a while up until the release of Tigatron in 2020. Then, 2021 came, and what was the main toyline for that year? Kingdom! Yes, Hasbro finally started giving Beast Wars its due attention for its 25th anniversary. We got new mass retail toys of every character that Takara had already made into MPs, plus several that hadn't been yet. And now in 2022, Legacy is continuing where Kingdom left off, finishing out the Season 1 cast with Tarantulas and Inferno, and even giving us Transmetal 2 Megatron as a bonus.

2021 also saw the start of the Vintage Beast Wars reissue line, which has likewise had many overlaps with the BW characters made into MPs. And even the RED line has dipped its toes into Beast Wars with Optimus Primal and Cheetor.

In short, I feel like Takara started making Beast Wars MPs not just to celebrate the 20th anniversary, but also because Hasbro wasn't going to. And now that Hasbro has been giving Beast Wars so much more attention at mass retail with Kingdom, Legacy, RED, and Vintage Beast Wars, Takara no longer feels the need to carry so much of the weight by themselves and are not as compelled to keep making the Beast Wars MPs as they were back when Hasbro was content to keep ignoring Beast Wars.

Meanwhile, the forthcoming release of Dark Amber Leo Prime seems to be the start of something else entirely, since that toy represents something completely new and different from what all came before, and is advertised by a new manga series called "End of G1 Universe".

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I think the MP line also has an agency problem. There seems to be no impetus to finish any of these lines they've started. Think about how many retail lines have begun and finished since MP-1 to Raiden?

It's like there is no one in charge. So they spend most of the downtime between releases spinning their wheels. It shouldn't matter what other projects are happening. They said BW Masterpiece will cover the fourteen characters of Season One. So they should have a timetable in place to make that happen within a certain window.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I think the MP line also has an agency problem. There seems to be no impetus to finish any of these lines they've started. Think about how many retail lines have begun and finished since MP-1 to Raiden?

It's like there is no one in charge. So they spend most of the downtime between releases spinning their wheels. It shouldn't matter what other projects are happening. They said BW Masterpiece will cover the fourteen characters of Season One. So they should have a timetable in place to make that happen within a certain window.

Maybe once the WFC and Legacy Beasts are out of style, then maybe we'll see more BW MP's. Do note that they're mixed with the G1 ones, so there's no real time table to be made without jeopardizing other potential releases.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Maybe once the WFC and Legacy Beasts are out of style, then maybe we'll see more BW MP's. Do note that they're mixed with the G1 ones, so there's no real time table to be made without jeopardizing other potential releases.

That's just it. There is no rhyme or reason to their releases? For example, excluding Raiden, this is the 2022 releases:


MP-55 Nightbird Shadow
(2022-02-28)
MP-53+ Senatorcrosscut
(2022-03-26)
MP-56 Trailbreaker
(2022-12)

What ties these together? Two redecos and one new mold Their entire release schedule seems to boil down to names out of a hat.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Maybe once the WFC and Legacy Beasts are out of style, then maybe we'll see more BW MP's. Do note that they're mixed with the G1 ones, so there's no real time table to be made without jeopardizing other potential releases.

That's just it. There is no rhyme or reason to their releases? For example, excluding Raiden, this is the 2022 releases:


MP-55 Nightbird Shadow
(2022-02-28)
MP-53+ Senatorcrosscut
(2022-03-26)
MP-56 Trailbreaker
(2022-12)

What ties these together? Two redecos and one new mold Their entire release schedule seems to boil down to names out of a hat.

Like it has always been Pre MP-10 was worse however.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Like it has always been Pre MP-10 was worse however.

That's what I mean. Next year is the 20th anniversary of the Masterpiece line. If they were competently run in any way, Beast Wars would be finished and G1 might even be upto Season 4 by now.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Maybe once the WFC and Legacy Beasts are out of style, then maybe we'll see more BW MP's. Do note that they're mixed with the G1 ones, so there's no real time table to be made without jeopardizing other potential releases.

That's just it. There is no rhyme or reason to their releases? For example, excluding Raiden, this is the 2022 releases:


MP-55 Nightbird Shadow
(2022-02-28)
MP-53+ Senatorcrosscut
(2022-03-26)
MP-56 Trailbreaker
(2022-12)

What ties these together? Two redecos and one new mold Their entire release schedule seems to boil down to names out of a hat.

Like it has always been Pre MP-10 was worse however.

I would say pre MP-10 was wonky in a different way tho: more limited (partly due to Alternators scaling well with MP-01/4 and MP-05) than random, though. All big G1 names, and a very short list thereof, including 3 redecoes and one rerelease with additional baggage.
Optimus
Nekked Magnus
Starscream, out of scale with Optimus
Optimus, but with trailer
Megatron, in scale with Optimus
Skywarp
Thundercracker
Grimlock, in scale with Starscream
Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime (who is arguably what kicked off the reboot, since MP-10 was made to scale with his Rodimus Prime configuration and every G1 MP since has followed this), also in scale with Starscream when configured as the latter.

It's not surprising MPs are so random though: they're A. outside the structure of regular lines and B. more artisanal in their design process than stuff in a regular line, and which get made is thus in no small part down to who designers feel like working on this time (and whether they're approved). The high price tags and need to not crowd production also slow things down.

[Blastback]

Scooped up the reissue Scorponok Friday, he is surprisingly a lot of fun. I was hoping he would be fun to handle, but he's better than i thought he'd be. Love him. Glad they reissued this one

late reply I know, but curious, how well does the bee stay attached? always popped out on my original.

But yeah, he was a fun toy. good blend of gimmicks and articulation. And damn it he looks cool. Had one of the better mutant heads to.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Such a great design. Definitely in comparison to the Mainframe model. Still don't think the show grey suits him as much as the original black though

[D-Maximal_Primal]

late reply I know, but curious, how well does the bee stay attached? always popped out on my original.

But yeah, he was a fun toy. good blend of gimmicks and articulation. And damn it he looks cool. Had one of the better mutant heads to.

the Bee stays in pretty well, I don't have a problem with it jumping out or anything.

I do really like this guy, he is my favorite of the 4 reissues I have bought

[Whifflefire]

I picked up a Razorclaw while on holiday last month. He's a neat little figure! Simple transformation but very distinct modes and pretty posable. His headsculpt has that signature Beast Wars aesthetic of asymmetrical and very expressive. He was near complete, only missing the outer claw that's supposed to cover his left arm's blaster, but I can live with that. The store where I got him also had an Armordillo, but he was missing his hindlegs/weapons, so I passed for the crab boy. He'll pair nicely with Rampage, who hopefully receives a new release within the next few years.

He makes a nice a nice rival to the other vintage aquatic-themed BW character I got this year, Cybershark!

He took the spot I had reserved for Tarantulas on my shelf, so I'll have to do some reorganising to make sure he and Inferno will fit as well. But he does fit in nicely with my vintage-coloured Predacons!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Nice. That's a mold i still need to get in some capacity, it looks good

[Whifflefire]

Nice. That's a mold i still need to get in some capacity, it looks good

He was also available in these radical colors:



Looks kinda tasty

[Emerje]

I have both and they're both great. The clear blue on Razorclaw looks really nice with the gold wash over the shell while the repaint/Rockbuster looks extra sharp ( ) in red and orange with metallic sea green.

Emerje

[AllNewSuperRobot]

He'll pair nicely with Rampage

I thought so too.
I have a great affinity for the smaller Crab. Even Head-canoned him having the same TM form as Rampage.

I found that grouping some of the non-show toys together gave really visually interesting sets. On the Pred's side, there was definitely a consciously made swamp team in there.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Rockbuster is definitely the version I want to get, Neo is a favorite line of mine, and Rockbuster is one of the very few I do not have from it yet

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Decided to pit Scorponok against Blaster.